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Submitted by schacht on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 11:12am.

From the electronic copy of your first response paper, cull one paragraph that best summarizes your analysis of the television show you watched. It may not be a single paragraph in the paper; you might pull together a couple of sentences from different paragraphs.

Read the paragraphs posted, and respond to them. Whose analysis caught things you missed? Which do you disagree with? Which one raises interesting questions that you'd like someone to explore further? Read the responses people are making, and develop an online conversation. (Remember to keep hitting "refresh" in your browser!) As you probably know from your own experiences online, such discussions often involve a number of different lines of discussion taking place at once, and that is to be expected here. Feel free to take part in one or several different lines of discussion.

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Submitted by Michael Hamman on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:42pm.

In actuality, the Simpsons portrays an acurate reflection of American society. People are afraid of the mobs, and in turn believe that all Italians are afiliated with them. We do tend to kiss up to them, which in turn only gives them more power. Michael (Fat Tony's son) is nothing like his father in the fact that he wants to be a chef, but everyone is scared of him because they don't want to get "whacked."
Also, many people believe that only women should be found in the kitchen. When the enemies of Tony find out that Michael made the desserts, they mock and scorn at him and his father because of the stereotype of men only doing the manual labor, or in this case taking over his fathers business. It makes Tony appear soft and "whackable" to his enemies, who in turn try to kill him.

Submitted by andyvu on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:40pm.

What I found interesting in the Simpsons episode was how the relationship between Fat Tony and his son reflects the relationships and values of families in American culture today. Not only does Fat Tony look down upon his son for wanting to become a chef but Fat Tony's mob rivals laugh at Michael as well. Fat Tony wants Michael to be more masculine and join the family business of "waste management" instead of becoming some sissy little chef. Many fathers in today's culture put pressure upon their sons to do things. Whether it is joining the football team, or going to a certain college, or in this case joining the family business, some fathers seek fulfillment of their own dreams through their sons. Everybody is different. Everybody should have the choice to be what they want to be. This is the country where dreams come true. This is just one theme I concentrated on in my paper.

Submitted by Alex Lewis on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:36pm.

Project Runway is just the latest in a long line of already established reality shows. Now in its third season, Project Runway gives the viewers a taste of the fashion industry by showcasing a group of 12 fashion designers facing fashion challenges each week and one by one a designer and one of the designer's models are sent home. Two key points as to why the genral viewing audience is so infatuated with reality TV shows is because of the excessive and unneccessary amount of drama and their ability to identify with at least one of the participants. With celebrities of today being put on such a high pedestal and deemed so untouchable to the everyday viewer, reality TV stars seem much more similar and compatible with the average person. This point is also recognized by the television industry and made apparent with their choice of casting to reach demographics of viewers of all age, race, and gender. In Project Runway, their ensemble of designers reach out to every demographic in some way of another. They have and African American male designer, Michael, a foreign designer from Germany, Uli, two middle aged married male and female designers, Laura and Vincent, a young woman with an outdoors, country background, Angela, a supposed gothic and sarcastic designer, Jeffery, a young, gay male Kayne, and a young, modern fashionista Allison. Those were just a few examples from this particular season, but they serve as a representation of the cultural composition of the shows key demographic categories.

Submitted by SheenaMathew on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:31pm.

Project Runway conveys two messages: one of perfection and one of servitude. The designers, the servants, are designing to the taste of their masters, the judges, and the masters are only tolerant of perfection. The judges are reputable designers displaying the hierarchy in the fashion world. This hierarchy takes years of designing to move to the top but until then this show displays ways in which designers try to move up. The designers base their lives on the approval of their superiors.

Submitted by MuktaPendharkar on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:29pm.

Initially, the Simpsons struck me as being a serial about an ordinary American family in an ordinary neighbourhood. As I watched on, I realised that this was actually a stereotype of an average American family, dealing with various issues on American Culture. The first thing I noticed was that the society seemed to be inharmonious and determined to have a “them and us” attitude on more than one occasion. Different people were branded with different names based on their looks and behaviour. This is definitely a parallel to the society today. Overall, I found the Simpsons to be an over exaggeration of society. Homer Simpson was depicted as thick, senseless, ill-mannered and incapable. As TV takes everything up a notch, the Simpsons may overstress all the current issues in the U.S., but nevertheless, they do point out some concerns in the society today.

Submitted by chitrinh91 on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:37pm.

I would think that if Simpsons were any less exaggerant, the show would be nowhere near as funny as it is. I think the topic-stretching that the Simpsons does helps us understand today's issues and stories on a much less serious note.

Submitted by James Fong on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:37pm.

My memory is fuzzy, but hasn't the simpson's character and personality always been the same since it first air 15 years ago?
This is paraphasing but, but one of my teacher once said:

"People never change, it is their surrounding that changed"

I think it was said when we were reading the diary of Ann Frank.

Submitted by padma sethu on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:28pm.

One point that stands out in the story is that Lisa, who is from a middle class family, very firmly believes in following her dreams. She thinks that it is very important for a person to do something that makes them happy. Michael, on the other hand, is brought up in an environment that is completely different from Lisa’s. He is raised knowing that someday he would take over his fathers Mafia business. Although he has his own dreams and aspirations, he is forced to suppress them and do as duty calls. This is clearly a clash in ideas of two children from completely different backgrounds.
There are many instances during the show wherein the sitcom manages to capture the current society in a very effective manner. For example, the school bus driver, like many young men and women in America, is an avid rock music fan and carries around a music system with him all the time. Michael’s father is shown wearing a suit and a lot of jewels as one would expect the mafia leader would. The bartenders and businessmen rely on the mafia for their business showing that although the mafia is not something a person would see everyday, even the middle class, is indirectly affected by them.
The language in this sitcom is not very polite and is not generally used in day-to-day conversations. For instance, the rhymes that the simpson kids sing on the bus in the sitcom are not what someone would teach their children.

Submitted by MuktaPendharkar on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:47pm.

I never really thought about how the upbringing made a difference. I did notice though that children are seen as an image of their parents. To what extent do you think this is true?

Submitted by ChrisWalters on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:27pm.

The model of society that is revealed in this episode is a typical American family who meets and becomes friends with a high-powered mob family in Springfield. This is sort of odd due to the fact that everyone else in the town is scared to death of the Mob. Though there is a presence of females, the main gender in the episode is males. All of the individuals that are in the mobs and doing all of the criminal activities are all male. This gives off the assumption that the males do all the dirty work while their wives and families stay home and safe out of trouble. The race card could also be easily distributed in these sorts of cartoons as well. Though there are different races in the cartoon, there isn’t enough of a distribution in the characters as there would be in yours or my normal life.

Submitted by MuktaPendharkar on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:40pm.

Having the majority of the characters in the show as male could state that 'males do all the dirty work...' or it could be an example of male domination, where females are surpressed in the society depending on the situation.

Submitted by ChrisWalters on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:45pm.

Its not that the majority of the characters in the show are male which makes them dominate. On this particular episode as with many other ganster movies, it just showed how the women get hidden away from society while the Male mobsters take care of their dirty work.

Submitted by padma sethu on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:36pm.

The thought about the Simpsons being the only family to befriend the mob family did cross my mind. I wondered how they so nonchalantly went to their home for dinner.

Submitted by Roxanne Bennett on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:33pm.

You have to keep in mind that in some areas of the United States there are still very large majorities of one particular race over another. The lacking presence of mixed races is really just a matter of where you are from. What do you think this lack of diversity in the show means? Did you state that in your next paragraph?

Submitted by AshleyHecht on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:27pm.

Sunday night’s episode, a knockoff of the famous movie “The Godfather”, was centered on Lisa’s new friend Michael and his mobster father “Fat Tony”. Fat Tony was pleased that his son had made a new friend and invited the Simpsons over to his home for dinner. However, Tony is shot when Michael tells his father that he would rather become a chef than the mob’s new kingpin. Ironically, Homer jumps at the opportunity to take over the mob and assures Michael he knows everything about mob life from watching the movie “Scarface”. This just goes to show how ridiculously media-obsessed Americans really are—“our” distinction between reality and television has become almost non-existent. When Michael is alarmed to see how corrupted Homer and Bart have become from the mob, he invites the rival family over and poisons their dinner. When Lisa asks if he killed them on purpose, he characteristically responds, “Don’t ever ask me about my family business”. This quote is actually a famous line from the Godfather. In order to even understand some television today, viewers are required to have prior knowledge of some other popular film—this highlights the current social significance of the T.V. and film industry.

Submitted by padma sethu on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:46pm.

Yes. This episode has been completely based on the Godfather. Fat Tony's son is even called 'Michael'!

Submitted by brianashby on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:35pm.

It was A Shark's Tale, not Scarface, which adds to the humor exponentially. Good recognization of the quote from The Godfather though. Remember when Homer told Marge, "If I knew the meatbals were poisoned, would I do this?" and then he commenced to eating every meatball on the tray! She finally had to take it away from him...what an IDIOT!!

Submitted by Brian Gille on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:45pm.

What about when Michael tells Lisa to never ask him about his business? It's classic Godfather.

Submitted by AshleyHecht on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:45pm.

Wow, I didn't even realize I mixed up the movies! Guess that proves my point of how media oriented our society is--or rather needs to be in order to understand any current television.

Submitted by schacht on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:27pm.

One of the things this Simpsons episode did was refer to almost all the mob movies & shows out there (including having two Sopranos stars doing guest voices). How much of this do you need to be familiar with to "get it"? How many mob movies or shows are you familiar with, and did you recognize them here?

Submitted by OscarAlarcon on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:25pm.

Instead of looking at the role of Homer within his family, I choose to look at the imagery used by the writers of the show to depict "mob" life. Yes, it was funny to see Homer, the idiotic father, as a mob boss who drove expensive cars and had lots of jewelry.

Submitted by Michael Morey on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:24pm.

In the beginning of the episode, Bart steals the school bus while Otto is preoccupied talking to the band “Metallica”. The idea that a child care provider could be distracted to this point by celebrities is mocking our cultures general obsession with them. Once Otto has been made a fool of due to his misguided obsession, he catches up with Bart at school, and as you can imagine he is quite angry. Otto decides to punish Bart for his misdeeds and beings to spank him on the spot, Principle Skinner catches him in the act and freaks out, suspending him immediately. These actions convey many anxieties held towards and by public schools. This shows that it was not Otto’s place to spank Bart (nor the school’s), however drastic his misdeeds may have been. It also shows that the administration in public schools is often too concerned with what they can and can’t do in an ongoing effort to avoid lawsuits, that they sometimes lose sight of what is important: the children’s wellbeing, upbringing, and education.

Submitted by brianashby on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:38pm.

Remember when Metallica hopped into the back of that little old grandpa's truck? Then the old man turned to Otto and said, "I used to sleep with Lar's grandmother..." How could poor Otto ever compete with that? HA!

Submitted by chitrinh91 on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:27pm.

In the latest episode, "The mook, the Chef, the Wife, and her Homer", Lisa befriends the son of Fat Tony (the local mob boss) who is aspiring to become a chef rather than succeed his father in the Mafia...Now, much like The Simpson's style, this very unlikely story is filled with many cues from modern society. This episode exploits the cliches and stereotypes about the Italian Mafia. Repeated use of the word "whack" and other synonyms instead of "kill", heavy Italian accents, and "exaggerated displays of affection" are all obvious stereotypes of Italians and the Mafia. The character "Fat Tony" is also a long running stereotype of a typical mob boss...It's probably safe to say that most people's interaction with mobsters is through watching them on television and in movies, meaning that viewers are left with only generalizations of the culture. With that said, this episode of The Simpsons, instead of just focusing on exaggerating existing stereotypes, actually ends up being a big joke about how today's society has formed these (mis)conceptions of Italian and Mafia culture. The Simpsons demonstrates that it can reflect upon stereotyping, an ongoing issue in today's society, in a comedic light.

Submitted by OscarAlarcon on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:30pm.

I thought it was great how the writers switched up the stereotype on several occations. One example of this is when the mobsters recommend that hommer eat healthy and exercise in order to live longer. We would not usually associate someone in the mob as giving these types of tips.

Submitted by chitrinh91 on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:39pm.

And also instead of a drive-by or a gang beating, they used a war helicopter to try to assassinate Fat Tony, hilarious

Submitted by NikkiSaxton on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:24pm.

It's entertaining to see these real people sweat it out to win their chance at fame. But are they not 'famous' for just being on the show?We come to know the personalities of the people on the show and some of them we hate, while there are othersthat we cheer for every time, mostly because they end up having some of the same personlity traits as we have. One of my favorite shows is Project Runway and every time it comes down to the judging, I'm just pleading with all my life that Michael isn't sent home.This show is a very good example of what people like, even if it is just another mind numbing television show that keeps us at home on the couch, rather than outside in the fresh air. People see themselves in these 'celebrities.' The person on the couch may not be exactly like the person on that 17" fla screen, but they still both have some of the same attributes. We all have hardship, but it's nice to know that even though we are't perfect, we could still be 'livin' large' one day. These pseudo celebrities are proof of that.

Submitted by Alex Lewis on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:43pm.

That's the point that I was trying to emphasize in my paper as well, except I think you put it more clearly than I did. By the way, Michael is one of my favorites too!

Submitted by schacht on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:29pm.

So what did you see in Project Runway that reflects on something larger? I've always found the show fascinating when it comes to gender issues, since there's so much discussion of what's appropriately feminine in a piece of clothing and what's not. There is also the cult of fame that you're suggesting - that everyone has a chance at stardom. So... tell me more...

Submitted by NikkiSaxton on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:39pm.

I think everyone had it in their minds that they would love to get their names out there. Whether it be acting, singing, designing, painting, or even writing. Reality TV gives people this chance. Nowadays, there is reality TV out there for just about every kind of person. Even a show like Surreal Life shows the normalcy in celebrities. So if they are 'screwups,' then why can't the 'screwups' in that we meet everyday also be on television? In reference to gender roles, the show suggest that the women should know what looks good on a woman's body, but that's all only opinion. I see outfits on the show all the time that I relly like, but, in the end, the judges just bash them. It's true what they say. 'Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.'

Submitted by Briseida Hernandez on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:39pm.

The notorious naturalist Charles Darwin expanded the ideology of "survival of the fittest" which is strongly represented in our Popular Culture today through entertainment like reality television shows. Other reality shows are based on who is the best. Project Runway is really all about T.V. ratings just like American Idol. In the end there is a winner but it's really based on the judges opinion not the talent.

Submitted by Lauren Winterfeld on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:23pm.

The trends of inevitability appear in the form of Michael wearing his father’s identity, in the unavoidable addiction to mob life that Homer and Bart form, and the trend in stereotypes that fill this episode to brimming. From ominous music foreshadowing a crime, the townspeople making special accommodations for Michael when they discover his connection to Fat Tony and the mob, the use of mob vocabulary such as “waste management,” deadly negotiations, and more demonstrate social responses to the mobster community. The show creators, however, handle references in a fashion that is outrageously obvious and comical, making it less likely to offend its audience.

Submitted by OscarAlarcon on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:35pm.

When the neighbor came over to return a letter he found, he is faced with a garage of wankstas. I mean come on. Bart and Homer, the dynamic duo try to threat their neighbor with all sorts of gadgets. A flying cat shot out of a slingshot just seemed like too much. Not over the top but taking a joke to far. Although it seemed out of the normal Bart and Homer that we are use to, I could totally see Bart flinging that feline through the air.

Submitted by James Fong on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:45pm.

bart and homer never really liked Ned much, I thought they were just taking advantage of their new found power.

Submitted by Lauren Winterfeld on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:44pm.

So true. BUT the point wasn't really meant to be about the seriousness of the trends. I mean, we ARE talking about the Simpsons here. I just meant to touch on the trends, period. The fact that Homer and Bart had a garage full of gadgets and threatened Flanders period was a mark along the path to mob-hood (new word. Like that one?). Your comment, though, definitely highlights the ability of the sitcom to successfully make light of social ordeals.

Submitted by Michael Morey on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:33pm.

Very well written. I like how you started off mentioning that Michael wears his father's identity (whether he wanted to or not). It brings to attention why mafias are commonly referred to as "families" and how Michael will inherit this as if it's a family heirloom or genetic disorder. Also the attention payed to detail is outstanding, the mention of foreshadowing through music really caught my eye.

Submitted by Roxanne Bennett on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:23pm.

Beginning with the overall purpose of this show, we can identify the cultural values that its contestants hold as important. The show is completely centered around the fashion industry, which implies a heavy emphasis on high class and high fashion sense. The individuals shown must design high-taste garments that appeal to the eyes of the judges and potentially to the fashion world. At the end of each “challenge”, these contestants must stand before judges and explain themselves and their ideas. This particular structure of “weeding” out designers reveals the highly judgmental fashion industry. Being told “you are out” or “you are in” reflects the common human tendency to declare some as winners, and those who aren’t “up to par” as failures.

Submitted by schacht on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:31pm.

"This particular structure of “weeding” out designers reveals the highly judgmental fashion industry."

I think that it's more than just the fashion industry here; after all, shows like "Big Brother" or "Survivor" do the same thing. I'd say it has to do with the competitive society that we're in, and that this show (like so many reality shows) is suggesting that you have to get the competition eliminated to win. No one's got a reality show that's about the value of cooperation...

Submitted by Michael Morey on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:39pm.

I won't claim to be a reality show buff or anything. In fact I try to avoid it if I can. But you say "No one's got a reality show that's about the value of cooperation." and from what I have seen (despite their highly competitive nature) the majority of the competitions are organized into teams. If one person fails to cooperate the whole team falls and is penalized, thus "weeding out" the weaker team members in order to make the team stronger. I think cooperation is a key part in many of those shows although it's shown in an atypical manner.

Submitted by Lauren Winterfeld on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:31pm.

Why is it, do you think, that shows like Project Runway target the socially elite? Or do you think the creators of the show intentionally set this standard because so many of us strive to reach that elite status, and television is one outlet to do so? It seems like shows like these would be more successful if they provided content that was geared toward a larger social demographic - like the middle or lower classes.

I like your point on the very diction ("You are in"/"You are out") determining the person's status and how it reflects on our roles in society being definted by someone else's terms.

Submitted by NikkiSaxton on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:33pm.

Don't you think that this show does cover more social classes, though? After all, some of these people gave up all they owned to go into this show and they are banking on winning, otherwise they could go into debt and end up being worse off then when they first started out.

Submitted by Briseida Hernandez on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:44pm.

It think the show is just trying to satisfy all social backgrounds in society. This is why there are stereotypes within the show. It helps viewers relate to what there watching.

Submitted by schacht on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:41pm.

Also, a lot of shows do show the richest of the rich, but I doubt that's who makes up their primary audience. Just because the people on the show are designing for the rich doesn't necessarily mean that's who watches it. Maybe the show is more for people who wish they could afford designer clothes... or who get a sense of satisfaction from how ridiculous rich people can look... or are just curious about how "the other side" lives. I think they are appealing to people who couldn't afford haute couture. (Heck, I watch the show, and I sure can't!)

Submitted by Roxanne Bennett on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:40pm.

Yes, they all came from different social backgrounds, but they are all hoping to gain fame in the fashion industry by selling their name and their designs. Once they accomplish the goal of becoming a well-known name, it is then that their products become expensive and a part of the more elite society. It isn't very often that the general public can afford designer gowns. So, yes the people themselves represent different social classes, but typical of most humans they hope to become people of fame and fortune.

Submitted by Briseida Hernandez on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:30pm.

The show surprises it's viewers when Jeffrey another contender victoriously wins his second challenge in a row. Even one of the judges takes the time to to point out during the elimination round that they didn't expect a "goth" to be able to create these types of designs. This show is not really concerned with which designer is the best because they all obviously have talent or they wouldn't be on the show in the first place, but they are trying to see what person makes the viewers keep watching. Shows like Real World vs. Road Rules, Project Runway, and America's Next Top Model expose our culture to the natural selection process, meaning that our culture is very selective when it comes to making a choice of who can and can't survive the challenge.

Submitted by kang song on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:20pm.

The first time i came to the United States, i was curious abut this show called the Simpsons. It seemed like every time i left my house i would see some types of the Simpsons merchandise. I felt like i was the only one wo doesn't know about the show, even little kid knew about the Simpsons show. I found it funny how seriously Americans took a cartoon; on the other hand i was also ver curious as to why this is. After watching the show several times i realized why the Simpsons is a reflection of American cultural preoccupations, anxieties, and values.

Submitted by Lydia Carreon on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:36pm.

The Simpsons is a reflection of America. Yet, it sometimes over-exagerates the outcome of situations that we encounter. We may face the same exact problems, but we deal with them in different ways. However, the show is comical because of the fact we can react in the eact same way as the characters on the show. For instance, when lisa broke Otto's(the bus driver) headset, he went ballistic. He frantically searched the radio for his taste of music and found nothing. He acted as if it was end the end of thw world. Then, out of nowhere, Metallica showed up right next to his bus. Like most teenagers who see their favorite bands,he ran to them and pronounced that he was there biggest fan. so, yes, they may sometimes be a mirror-image of ourselves. But dont worry Kang, were not that bad!

Submitted by James Fong on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:29pm.

I found this interesting because I originally came from Hong Kong which had a english boardcast channel where they would show simpson all the time. I had known about the simpson long before I came here and had always liked it.

You found it funny that americans took a cartoon seriously, but after 15 years on tv it's part of the american culture.

Likewise, you could find it funny how seriously we now take shakespearan when it was written purely for enterianment but now it's pretty much a required reading in high school, atleast for me.

Submitted by kang song on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:37pm.

I am sure we DO also have a channel that would shows the Simpsons all the time, however, i was not a kind of person who would like to watch television shows or cartoons all the time.

Submitted by schacht on Tue, 09/12/2006 - 1:25pm.

So why did you realize that the Simpsons reflects American cultural preoccupations? I'm interested because you say that you're coming to it as an outsider, which means it's a fairly unique perspective.